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"under god" in the pledge of allegience
Chaos Posted: Wed Nov 12 10:48:15 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  i am doing a project in statistics (woo hoo). i am doing a survey of whether or not people think "under god" is should be included in the pledge of allegience. it would help if i had some of your thoughts on the subject. i am really looking for the following:

1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.

2-why to #1

3-what is your religion

4-what is your political affiliation

5-what is your age

6-where in the country do you live

thanks for your help.


 
Asswipe Posted: Wed Nov 12 14:39:23 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  1. No
2. It has nothing to do w/ patriotism, the reason the pledge exists.
3. Agnostic
4. Eh, liberal leaning, no declared party.
5. 20
6. New York


 
Asswipe Posted: Wed Nov 12 14:40:05 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  err sorry, misread the first part. I don't think it should be in there.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Nov 12 14:48:01 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Chaos said:
>i am doing a project in statistics (woo hoo). i am doing a survey of whether or not people think "under god" is should be included in the pledge of allegience. it would help if i had some of your thoughts on the subject. i am really looking for the following:
>
>1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.

don't care one way or the other

>2-why to #1

the term "under god" does not imply government sponsorship of any religion.
like it or not, our founding fathers were very adamant in their belief of a creator. the word "in god we trust" is emblazoned on our currency. every court in the land opens with "god save this court". why should the term "under god" in the pledge make a difference one way or another ?

>
>3-what is your religion

none
>4-what is your political affiliation

no political affiliation but idealogically a conservative.
>5-what is your age

48

>6-where in the country do you live

kentucky
>thanks for your help.
welcome


 
socialyD Posted: Wed Nov 12 14:51:51 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  1. No
2. The constitution provides for freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion. There is no constitutional guaranty against being offended. The word God may offend you but that is the beauty of freedom of speech. If we start removing words that offend people, where do we stop? At first it is mostly aimed at religious speech, a thought which most non-religious types revel in, but what to say it stops there. We move from religious speech to other things that offend people; how about anti-war campaigns, pro-choice speeches, or political speeches of third parties? Denying freedom of speech to anyone is a dangerous game. One of may favorite quote is one by Voltaire I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it. I believe in not giving up any freedom of speech no matter what the cause.
3. Moderate Democrat
4. 21
5. Coeur D Alene, Idaho



 
addi Posted: Wed Nov 12 15:53:35 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
>
>1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.

Don't feel real strong about it either way, but since you need a yay or nay I'll say it should be taken out. If it was tweeked to say "one nation over god", or "one nation under my idea of who god is" I would accept it.
>
>2-why to #1

We got along fine with the old wording for over half a century. Eisenhower added under god the year I was born (various reasons given as to why). Adding that phrase doesn't make me or anyone else more "patriotic" or spiritual when we recite it. If it offends the American Hindus or any other polytheists then I say just change the wording back to the way it origonally was and move on to more important matters. If I was God I would be thinking, "spare me your silly little obcession with words. It's your actions I'm concerned about".

>
>3-what is your religion
Non-practicing Episcopalian
>
>4-what is your political affiliation
Stinkin' Liberal
>
>5-what is your age
29
>
>6-where in the country do you live

Atlanta Georgia
>
>thanks for your help.

Anytime for a fellow GTer!


 
Kira Posted: Wed Nov 12 16:51:10 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
>1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.

Taken out.

>2-why to #1

A nation/government is not allowed a 'god' or religion. People can and should believe in whatever seems right to them, but the US must represent ALL people, and cannot do so 'under God.' My strongest objection is not the wording itself but the saying of the pledge in schools. Freedom of speech allows that nobody must recite the pledge if he/she does not wish to, but I have my doubts as to whether school children are made aware of this right if/when the pledge is said in their school. If I was sure no one in the country was ever -compelled- to recite the pledge, I wouldn't care one way or another. But I am not sure, so I'm concerned.

>3-what is your religion

None.

>4-what is your political affiliation

Libertarian.

>5-what is your age

Twenty.

>6-where in the country do you live

North Carolina.

>thanks for your help.


 
FN Posted: Wed Nov 12 17:37:50 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I'm not from america but I'll bother you with my opinion anyway.


Chaos said:
>i am doing a project in statistics (woo hoo). i am doing a survey of whether or not people think "under god" is should be included in the pledge of allegience. it would help if i had some of your thoughts on the subject. i am really looking for the following:
>
>1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.
>

Yes

>2-why to #1
>

Any religious factors should be taken out of all official documents/statements/... Administrative stuff is rational, religion is not.

Also, not all people believe in 'god' in case some of you haven't noticed.

>3-what is your religion
>

I believe in myself.

>4-what is your political affiliation
>

Center-right liberal.

>5-what is your age
>

16

>6-where in the country do you live
>

I'm happy to say I'm not an american, I'm from Belgium

>thanks for your help.


 
libra Posted: Wed Nov 12 20:27:13 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Chaos said:
>>
>1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.
>

taken out

>2-why to #1
>
I think that its just the most polite thing to do...It really has nothing to do with anything about the country.

>3-what is your religion
I'm not religious

>4-what is your political affiliation
>
Very liberal. I guess I'm a democrat or green.
>5-what is your age
18(ooo, i can finally write that)
>
>6-where in the country do you live
California(that question kind of discounts my entire opinion doesnt it?)
>
>thanks for your help.


 
iggy Posted: Wed Nov 12 21:17:11 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
>1-do you think "under god" should be taken out of the pledge or left in.

taken out

>2-why to #1

i don't why why God should be dragged into the business of the U.S of A. maybe before, but not now... in fact God will ask for that to be taken out

>3-what is your religion

anti-organisation christian

>4-what is your political affiliation

resistance freedom fighter

>5-what is your age

27

>6-where in the country do you live

in the suburbs

>thanks for your help.

no worries


 
mat_j Posted: Thu Nov 13 08:06:27 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  1. No

2. Ain't broke don't fix it

3. Roman Catholic (currently non practicing)

4. Centre left (Currently non practicing)

5. 22

6. I'm from Wales in the UK but if anyone needs to know just say Crabapple cove Maine


 
bluellama Posted: Thu Nov 13 09:44:49 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  1. Yes
2. It doesn't matter what religion you believe in, or maybe you don't belive in one at all. It is your basic right to believe in whatever it may be, so why would something said everyday have God in it, don't we have seperation of church and state? Just leave it out of the pledge, or put Buddah, Zeus, and every other God in there. Just be equall...
3. I believe in evolution
4. Democrat
5. 17
6. Richmond, VA....quite close to Washington D.C.


 
SntSaturn Posted: Thu Nov 13 21:47:19 2003 Post | Quote in Reply  
  1. left in
2. Its what the government was based on when it was formed.
3. christian
4. republican
5. 17
6. Ohio


 



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