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Where oh where?
iggy Posted: Fri Sep 10 04:35:58 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  there be somewhere i can actually meet someone intelligent enough for a conversation over a cup of coffee.

i go out with my mates, and when i heard the conversations going around me (not my mates, but strangers) i've realised one thing.
noone actually has a decent conversation.

i mean they talk... yes, it seems like a conversation.
but it's all empty?

what happened to the art of conversation and talking about everything and nothing in particular?

there must be a place to meet at least someone to have a decent conversation with.

ironic quote of the day.
"Right now you could be doing something great, but instead you are slowly bathing your brain cells in the dull light of a computer screen. Live. "
patrick goins

Christian Posted: Fri Sep 10 08:20:44 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  hey Chanz,
I know what you mean, wish I could be there for that chat.


libra Posted: Fri Sep 10 10:26:01 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  come to California. to a little coffee place called "Aroma Roasters" in Sonoma County. THERE you will find your conversation. Or, at least, I always have.

Asswipe Posted: Fri Sep 10 12:18:16 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  well, umm, different strokes for different folks, i mean, people can have conversations about stuff that maybe i'm not interested in and while it'll seem pointless to me, they can really enjoy it. I'm not big into sports, i like to play them but hate watching other people play, and discussing other people playing them seems quite pointless to me, however many of my friends can sit around and talk about that shit for hours.

aside from that, I've met people who love discussing anything at all, even the damn weather, something i've always despised but am starting to come around with.

anyways, half of the reason i havn't been posting on here lately is because you all bore me to no end. I do check in fairly often but rarely find something that catches my interest. this isn't an insult, i'm just interested in different things, or different aspects of things, than the majority of you folks.

anyways, be well.

Asswipe Posted: Fri Sep 10 12:19:52 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  also, i've noticed someone likes to take pictures of libra's backside.

casper Posted: Fri Sep 10 12:24:49 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Asswipe said:
>also, i've noticed someone likes to take pictures of libra's backside.

i think we've ALL noticed libra's backside...

addi Posted: Fri Sep 10 13:58:20 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Asswipe said:

>anyways, half of the reason i havn't been posting on here lately is because you all bore me to no end.

Ahhhh...there's the asswipester I miss : )

Anybody can be consistantly rude and insulting on sites like this and think they're being oh so clever.

The difference I see with you Ass is that your distain is authentic and genuine, and not said just for show.
Whether I agree or not with your attitude I do appreciate your tell-it-like-it-is approach to people.

It's refreshing to read, even from a dipwad like you
: )

Nikki Posted: Fri Sep 10 14:11:13 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  oh for fuck's sake will you SHUT UP!!!

you fucking old WINDBAG

addi Posted: Fri Sep 10 14:23:51 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Nikki said:
>oh for fuck's sake will you SHUT UP!!!
>you fucking old WINDBAG

thank you nikki for helping to illustrate my point. excellent timing : )

erikagm Posted: Fri Sep 10 18:41:01 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addison said:

>thank you nikki for helping to illustrate my point. excellent timing : )


She did check in at just the right mark this time, didnt she?

innocenceNonus Posted: Fri Sep 10 19:40:50 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Having meaningful conversation has become an elite art form nowadays.

Where are the conversations about the existence of Man?
The reality (or unreality) of a god?
The irrationalities of society?
The insecurities?
The plausibilities of multiple universes? Or life in other systems?

Yeah... No one really seems to talk about philosophy or beauty or passion anymore. I mean, people write about it. But talk about it? Not so much.

I think, though, that small talk can be appreciated.

I mean, someone can talk about existentialism all they want, but how much does that touch the other's heart like an honest, simple, and genuine, "How was your day?"

I'd rather hear from someone who REALLY cares how my day was or REALLY cares about what I've got to say than from someone wanting to talk to me about socialism vs. communism.

Ehhh... I doubt you really meant your post like that, Chanz. Guess I went off on a tangent, but lately... a lot of muddlement has been going on in my head.

My apologies, Chanz. I'll try not to do it again.

mat_j Posted: Fri Sep 10 20:29:47 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Come to the pub with me and the lads, maybe you'll even find out what a splungako is

Spee Posted: Fri Sep 10 21:28:55 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Most people don't have the time to think deeply about the world and its subtleties, or it never crosses their mind. I think it's a bit untrue to say that no-one talks about philosophy - there's just a time and a place for it. I happen to think that place isn't over a cup of coffee in some greasy spoon café.

Phrases like "How was your day?" are phatic in nature - no-one wants, or expects, a diatribe from the other person about their day - it's just an exchange of pleasantries. So-called 'genuine' questions along these lines usually only exist between 2 or more people who have a great affinity with one another. For example, why should the boss of a massive bereaucratic company care about your day? He/she would only ask to be polite in 99.9% of cases. In Western society, genuine curiosity and concern for another's thoughts and feelings is diminishing daily. That's my conclusion from my own experiences and observing the interaction of others.

Just my two pennies. :)

CorDrine Posted: Fri Sep 10 21:42:24 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I once meet a person I just met, came up to my hostel room while I was still in uni. He stayed from 10pm - 6am, and we just talked! From politics to philosophy to religion! It was amazing! Nothing came out of the friendship. We drifted apart after that and carry on with our own life, but the impact of it, to have practically a total stranger having such a conversation with you, its just very erm, rare.

CorDrine Posted: Fri Sep 10 21:46:10 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Sometimes I start to get anti-social, you know, rather eating lunch alone then with your colleague. When people ask you to hang out with them, you rather rot in your home then try to fake a meaningless conversation with them?

Most of the time, my "friends" would be talking about nail polish, fashion, latest tv series, toiletries, nail polish, cosmetics, shoes, cute celebraty, nail polish, gym session, who is cute in the office, when they are getting married, more nail polish, and you get the idea?

innocenceNonus Posted: Fri Sep 10 22:38:20 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Well, Spee- I agree. (It rhymes! How awesome.)

People DO still talk about philosophy, but they don't talk about it very often. Well, most people don't. The majority are running on schedules, and often tight ones. Thus, it's hard to REALLY have a meaningful and intellectual conversation.

And as for the "How was your day?" and no one really cares- I also agree with that. That's why when someone (anyone) says and means it, the phrase is even more important. The phrase is now used most often as a formality, kind of like Thank You or Your Welcome. How often do you REALLY mean thank you?

I think that if everyone just cared about everyone else a little more... if people just GAVE other people some respect to start with, the world would be a lot nicer.

Idealistic and unrealistic, I know- but it's just a thought.

I was basically writing from the standpoint of myself in that last post. That is, I had a tiring day and haven't been getting enough sleep, and one of the LAST things I want to do right now is talk about Nihilism and its influence on Crime and Punishment, even though I love literature and philosophy.

Sometimes, a brain-digging conversation just doesn't have the same placating effect as a good and caring conversation does.

There are people out there who really are that nice- people who say sorry when they bump into you and generally mean it. People who thank you for going to their store, people who thank you for just being their friend. I've met people who, just by saying something simple like, "How are you doing tonight?" have changed a sour person's mood completely because they showed a genuine interest in listening.


Maybe the key isn't in saying something kind- maybe it's in showing a true wish to listen??

choke Posted: Fri Sep 10 22:51:54 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Too many talkers.. Not enough listeners

kurohyou Posted: Fri Sep 10 23:46:02 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  choke said:
>Too many talkers.. Not enough listeners

Well put. I think one of the problems I have with "conversations" is that they are generally each person trying to talk about themselves. Except in established friendships.

I have a very difficult time with my co-workers because they are so full of themselves and the projects they've worked on and the school they went to and all this crap. I work with one girl who basically gives you her resume everytime you talk to her about anything.

No one listens to each other. And that is a problem.

I ask questions, that is how I tend to lead coversations in person. But often times this is not reciprocated. I know a lot about the people I work with and those that I know as acquaintences. But when all is said and done they don't know much about me.

Its funny because if I'm talking to someone about something, one of my co-workers will come up and say "I didn't know that..." and my reply will be. "you didn't ask."

Most of them didn't know I had kids until I had worked there for 4.5 months. No one asked.

Mouse Posted: Sat Sep 11 01:03:13 2004 Post | Quote in Reply  
  People tend to have long intense conversations with me. I don't respond to things I don't feel need to so people keep going. I nod and say what needs to be said and not a bit more. Of course this sometimes means nothing is said at all...


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