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Lick my nutsack when it's at it's sweatiest, Bill Gates.
FN Posted: Wed Feb 2 04:53:47 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Yesterday on the news I saw that the Belgian government is going to work together with Microsoft to develop the first fully-functional "eID's". Meaning that you get an ID card with a chip in it with basicly everything about you on it, all personal data, drivers license, medical history, everything.

On top of that Gates thought it would be handy if he'd integrate it into, among other things, msn "so parents can be sure that who their children are talking to are really who they say they are".

He ended the interview by saying how "fantastic" it is that Belgium is taking the front in the whole "eID" thing and that we should be proud of it.

That's all very nice, my goofy-haircutted friend, but this Belgian guy here isn't buying your crap. Get off my fucking territory.

I'm always extremely weary about people praising me. There must be something in it for them as well, and with Gates it was over the top by any standards.

If he would have said it to me directly I would have hit him in the face for being such a paternalistic ass, I shit you not.

The whole thing smells fishy from start to finish, I'm even beginning to wonder if the government guy, "the statesecretary for informatisation", might have gotten something out of it as well, if you know what I mean.

I'm sure Gates will like it, no more pirated software, you'll have to pay for anything you do probably, and anybody will be able to identify you, and thus keep track of everything you say and do on your computer too.

Oh yeah, and you'll have to buy a card reader as well, at a small and acceptable cost ofcourse.

But Gates assured us that even if he wouldn't get any money out of it he would have gone along with it since it's the right thing to do to guarantee our children's safety on the internet.

Yeah fucking right, bitch.

I would have cut him some slack if he would have said that he'd get even more rich because of it but this fake chivalry pisses me off.

The day this thing hits I'm taking my computer off the internet or I'm switching to Mac/Linux. I have a dark brown feeling that I wont be the only one.

This calls for a revolution.


 
FN Posted: Wed Feb 2 04:56:57 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Gates, if you're reading this, I will stop my crusade to bring you down for a mere 51% of your capital.

Better take it.


 
iggy Posted: Wed Feb 2 05:01:51 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  join the mac revolution

viva le resistance


 
beetlebum Posted: Wed Feb 2 06:15:43 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I'm wary of anything that usurps my privacy. And I think Bill Gates is a shady, shady man. Be careful, though, Christophe, because he strikes me as the type of guy that would lick your nutsack at its sweatiest to get ahead. Or worse, he'd send some nasty man to do his business. :)

(And I know he gives to charity, but that's pretty freakin' easy when you're a billionaire... 100 million doesn't mean much.)

For the nerdy record, my whole family owns Macs... I've had mine for three years and it hasn't frozen/crashed once. Well, I take that back. It does freeze occasionally (twice, really) when I'm writing in Microsoft Word. FIGURES.








 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Feb 2 06:39:11 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Didn't Bill Gates purchase a controlling interest in Apple several years ago ?


 
beetlebum Posted: Wed Feb 2 06:58:19 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Don't say that, ifihadif!

I can only take so much of the man... let me live in my world of ignorance and bliss. :)


 
beetlebum Posted: Wed Feb 2 06:59:02 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  p.s. i meant Man with a capital "M"

grin.


 
Mesh Posted: Wed Feb 2 12:00:33 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Bill Gates is a weenie.


 
jasco1982_2000 Posted: Wed Feb 2 14:49:22 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
I dont like the idea of this national identity crap. At the end of the day the people who are going to control it are people with money. And like everything else it will the people with the power and money are the ones that screw the little guy.

I believe that measures should be put in place on the internet to protect children as it is very easy for them to stumble accross the wrong thing. It takes one wrong word and a slight bit of curiosity. Also there is no way to garantee who your talking too.

However no matter how many provisions are put in place for things like these it cannot beat vigilance and comon sence. I find it hard to trust anyone on the internet cos it is so easy to fake who you are. (Unless it is from a trusted source like gt was).

I hate bill gates always have and always will. With him in the driving seet of all this I would be very disturbed.

I cannot say weather or not he is doing it for the right reasons but the final resolution would be weather the pros outway the cons. Something like what was proposed for msn is a good idea but at the end of the day if you open up the door how far will it go.

Does anyone remember the good old days of the late 90s when the internet used to be free.

There thats my 2 cents


 
FN Posted: Wed Feb 2 15:01:58 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  The most revolting thing is that this is supposed to be to protect children from coming into contact with "the wrong people". What they didn't remember was that you only get an ID when you're 12, so basicly you aren't protecting the children, you aren't protecting anybody who needs protection.


 
jasco1982_2000 Posted: Wed Feb 2 15:25:08 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
 

Then it is just bollocks then. Then again the "wrong people are going to be over 12. So obviously they would be protected that way.

A lot more widespread awareness of the internet and its dangers would be a large step farward.


 
FN Posted: Wed Feb 2 16:13:36 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Internet safety is like terrorism if you ask me.

Everybody thinks they're a target while in fact they run more risk of getting hit by lightning.

It would probably be better to invest the money in something that will actually make a difference.

How many kids that you know of have been scarred for life because they stumbled upon a pornsite while searching for pikachu on google or whatever?

And how many kids that you know of have ever come into contact with a pedofile via the internet?

If the kid actually starts taking pictures of itself or actually goes to meet the guy, I think that says a lot about the kid and it's upbringing as well if you ask me. I don't think that an "eID" card would do more than postpone the problem.

If you overprotect your kids and raise them to be dumb fucks they'll be abused by some fuck somewhere down the road anyway.


 
Asswipe Posted: Wed Feb 2 16:34:38 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Christophe said:
>Internet safety is like terrorism if you ask me.

america's fear of terrorism, yes.

>
>Everybody thinks they're a target while in fact they run more risk of getting hit by lightning.

look at you, high and mighty, using big words like "everybody"

>
>It would probably be better to invest the money in something that will actually make a difference.

for instance?

>
>How many kids that you know of have been scarred for life because they stumbled upon a pornsite while searching for pikachu on google or whatever?

i'll never forget the day I found my first pikachu porn. i havn't been the same since, but not in a negative way.

>
>And how many kids that you know of have ever come into contact with a pedofile via the internet?

how many "kids" do you know?

>
>If the kid actually starts taking pictures of itself or actually goes to meet the guy, I think that says a lot about the kid and it's upbringing as well if you ask me. I don't think that an "eID" card would do more than postpone the problem.
>
>If you overprotect your kids and raise them to be dumb fucks they'll be abused by some fuck somewhere down the road anyway.

now i'm starting to see possibility in you of being our next savior. with a bit of culmination this twisted vine will strangle many a strong oak.

but outside of fucking with you for using such grandiose terms, i agree, it's taking the security vs. freedom debacle to an all new imbalance. I'd not want it, it sounds like we're the next step closer to matrixdom. DAMN THE MACHINES... and bill gates.


 
FN Posted: Wed Feb 2 17:07:48 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Asswipe said:
>america's fear of terrorism, yes.

Basicly yeah. For all I know at least.

>look at you, high and mighty, using big words like "everybody"

I discovered the beauty of words made up of more than 2 handclaps! Yay!

>>It would probably be better to invest the money in something that will actually make a difference.
>
>for instance?

Me.

>i'll never forget the day I found my first pikachu porn. i havn't been the same since, but not in a negative way.

That's what I mean, we need more pikachu porn.

>how many "kids" do you know?

Enough to be able to make a rough estimate that the chances of falling victim to an internetpedophile are close to non-existant.

>I'd not want it, it sounds like we're the next step closer to matrixdom. DAMN THE MACHINES... and bill gates.

I heard Bill Gates has a mechanical penis and sends pictures of it to young children on MSN. We all have to suffer for his kinkyness.

Oh the humanity!


 
jasco1982_2000 Posted: Wed Feb 2 17:21:06 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
ahhh Pikachu porn. eh

ill be right back


 
Mark Posted: Wed Feb 2 17:29:37 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  LINUX!!! ...resistance is NOT futile!


 
jennemmer Posted: Wed Feb 2 18:30:22 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Christophe said:
>Asswipe said:

>>look at you, high and mighty, using big words like "everybody"
>
>I discovered the beauty of words made up of more than 2 handclaps! Yay!

Maybe I'm just a bit crazy after the day I've had but I found that hysterically funny. Thanks, I needed a laugh.


 
innocenceNonus Posted: Wed Feb 2 19:33:38 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Hah. I cheer this thread and all of its aims. Except the Pikachu porn... that just weirds me out. ::blegh::

I actually can't stand too much parental control. And I think that when I'm the parent, I'll feel the same way.

For one thing, parents should be teaching their kids not to be retarded and give out WAY too personal information. And they should be teaching their kids to recognize internet predators.

Blocking people and practically stalking your kids isn't going to save them...

Let's have a parable! One day, a mother, father, and son were walking in the woods. Suddenly, there was a pack of lions that approached. Now, rather than the mother and father teaching their son about the lions or warning him, they merely covered him with their bodies. They wanted to protect him.

And that's what they tried to do until the lions ate them. And then ate their son.

HOWEVER, if the parents had warned their son about the lions and taught him the proper way to escape them, MAYBE he woulda had a fighting chance.


People are so retarded.


EDUCATION IS THE KEY!

Creation of fear and/or ignorance only leads to the entropy.

I don't like the V-chip either. Or password-encrypted sites.

For one, since when did we start allowing machines to parent our children? Isn't it the parent's job to watch and care for the child? Not the TV/ computer?

Get off your lazy butt and start checking up on your kid yourself. Keep up with their lives through human contact, not vigourously reading the lists of sites they've been to.

And secondly, why don't your kids know any better? Do you suck that badly at being a parent?!

UGGGGGHHHH. Everything is backwards. -.-


 
lazyelephant Posted: Wed Feb 2 22:27:57 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  first i would like to say that this thread is awesome. thanks christophe!

um, bill gates, he can bite me in the ass. we should start a rebellion against bill gates and this stupid eID idea. it's an inhibition on my rights!! i could sue. do you think i'd get anything?

yes, the clapping comment made me laugh as well. i wonder, how many of you actually clapped out the syllables of "everybody"?

bill gates has too much frickin money. i agree that it could be better spent on other things, and like christophe said, "me". (which, btw, was a very good point).

anyway, my opinion really takes too long to type out, and knowing me, i'd prolly contradict myself anyway, and i don't need ANOTHER group of people calling my a hypocrite. :D

i agree with the statement that the children need to be taught what's bad in the net, instead of being protected. my mom was protected all her life, never knew the good from evil (not in the internet situation, but still a good example) and was raped in college by her BEST FRIEND. i curse his name, and have never met the guy, and she won't tell me his name.

the example with the lions made me remember a short story by Ray Bradbury...The Veldt, i think it was. it also involves lions.

i think that if the eID's went into effect, that people would find a way around it, a way to make a bigger, better technology to make the eID inferior (three cheers to the computer geniuses!)

yes, i think that christophe could lead us from this great evil. if you run for any kind of office, you've got my vote!

i too, am disturbed that bill gates, would sponsor such a project. i shudder to think of the outcome. let's just hope he doesn't try to run for president.

in any case, i'm all for stopping this train. who's with me?!



 
Puck Posted: Wed Feb 2 22:32:59 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  lazyelephant said:
>in any case, i'm all for stopping this train. who's with me?!

While we're at it, let's stop Flanders and the Borg.


 
Mouse Posted: Sat Feb 5 15:58:11 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Hmm, this rules out Belgium as a possible hideout.
Anyways, Mr. Gates can lick the dog shit off the heel of my boot, and I mean that in the friendliest way possible.
*strokes her iBook* You will never get a virus or crash, let alone betray me, my sweet.
Switch, I tell you, switch!

Mouse


 
erikagm Posted: Sat Feb 5 18:39:28 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  This is starting to sounds more and more like a book I read. Cant remember the name, but it's where the "big brother" idea came out of.

Got a humongous headache and I need more sleep.


 
lazyelephant Posted: Sat Feb 19 16:46:43 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  erikagm said:
>This is starting to sounds more and more like a book I read. Cant remember the name, but it's where the "big brother" idea came out of.


could you mean 1984? i hated that book...sure it gives you something to think about, but sheesh.


 
libra Posted: Sat Feb 19 17:05:41 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  lazyelephant said:
>erikagm said:
>>This is starting to sounds more and more like a book I read. Cant remember the name, but it's where the "big brother" idea came out of.
>
>
>could you mean 1984? i hated that book...sure it gives you something to think about, but sheesh.

what?!
That's such a good book
Completely depressing, but it's amazing.


 



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