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Paulo Posted: Thu Apr 21 06:22:25 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  It occurred to me today, as I left the Dr's from a liver function test that the Welsh have a very peculiar way of greeting each other.

I walked past a builder, he exclaimed in a quiet-ish voice "alright" I replied in kind. He possibly knew that my father owns the rival building firm or was just attempting to be friendly.

The thing I find that is in Wales we have managed to streamline the greeting so that with the statement "alright" we're not really asking a person if they are ok, there really is nothing to suggest that the "alright" we utter is a question.

If someone says "alright" and you respond with anything other than "alright" people look at you as if you've pulled your penis out, starting yanking it with reckless abandon and spurted sex wee all over their face.

I once actually tried to reply to a fellow Welshman by exclaiming how tired I was after being woken at 10 a.m. by the phone. He was rather confused.

The Welsh have managed to replaced "Hello", a simple one word greeting with a statement that not only answers the question asked

MAN 1: "alright?" but also asks the question to which the answer was also the question asked previous.

MAN 2: "Alright"

Somehow we as a nation are so busy being "Welsh" that not only have we broken the laws of speech and grammer by simultaneously answering a question and asking a question in arrears, we have made it almost impossible to chat to other nations.

Take the English, throughout University people would ask me how I was doing, and instead of doing the stop and chat I would walk past and utter "alright?" probably confusing and insulting an English acquaintance by ignoring their initial question and asking one of them whose answer I could not here because I had already passed them.

I'm talking about meetings with complete strangers here. Generally the Welsh can whoop one out and talk sex wee for hours, with strangers the Welsh like to give the impression they are too busy being busy, to utter anything more than what surely amounts to a Paradox of the known universe.

I have attempted to correct this genetic fault by saying hello as often as possible. Though I have now noticed that most people regardless of nationality, at least in Britain are only looking for either a replied "Hello" or at the very most if they ask how are you? They only want to know that your good, they don't wish to know about your piles, verruca's or shameful fungal infections.

But the Welsh are the only group of people I know of who can squeeze so un-courtesy into a phrase. Any other strange ones out there?



 
beetlebum Posted: Thu Apr 21 06:50:44 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  So true. I work with a Welsh person, and for a long time I thought he was trying to imply that I didn't look alright when he asked "alright?" And everytime I'd say, "Yes, I'm fine. Do I not look it?" And then he just look at me. Awkward, but funny.


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 21 07:59:04 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Always enjoy your posts, Paulo. They're actually more like commentaries on the quirky strangeness of daily life, it seems to me.

and how are you?
A bit of alright?


 
Paulo Posted: Thu Apr 21 08:55:24 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I am good, I turned 22 yesterday so I'm a little depressed at the slowly receeeding hairline and gums.

Soon I am going to Cardiff the Capitol City of this Principality once Austrailian soap Neighbours has finished to spend my Birthday cash on Curb Your Enthusiasm DVD's and PC speakers so that my porn (my girlfriend is currently "on") and be heard through sub-woofer loveliness.

... Now all I need is some kind of book telling me what a woofer is and why this contraption is "sub" whatever a woofer does.


 
antartica Posted: Thu Apr 21 11:42:29 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  alright Paulo?

happy Birthday dood =)


 
breeze Posted: Thu Apr 21 11:42:48 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Paulo said:
>I am good, I turned 22 yesterday

Happy belated birthday! =)


 
Mesh Posted: Thu Apr 21 11:55:59 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Happy Birthday 'n' shit.


 
FN Posted: Thu Apr 21 12:04:23 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Same.


 
kurohyou Posted: Thu Apr 21 12:40:05 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  The one that I find most interesting is one that floats about my family and others that I know.

I suppose it could be considered a form of Eubonics. You ask a person "what's up," only you lose the "what" entirely and end up saying "sup?" and they will generally reply with the same. I use it as a greeting frequently as a reflex, and I hate it because I generally tend to dislike using slang. But I use it all the time so that may be a battle I stop fighting.

An alternate reply to "'sup" could also be "ite." Which is a hacked up form of "alright." I use this one all the time, even when IMing friends.

Another one that comes to mind as an interesting greeting is Aloha in Hawaii. From what I understand its a greeting, as well as something you say when you leave. I've never been there so I can't vouch for it from personal experience. Though I do think they talk about it in the movie "Miss Congenaliaty."

For what its worth...


 
kurohyou Posted: Thu Apr 21 12:40:35 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  And Happy Belated Birthday as well to you Paulo


 
jennemmer Posted: Thu Apr 21 12:50:24 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I always found the greeting in Chicago to be pretty strange as well. They actually manage to get out a "How's it going" (howzitgo'n) on thier way by without slowing down. They actually seem to have it timed so that they are already long gone before they even finish so no matter what you reply they aren't there to hear it.

Answering with a quick almost premptive "Fine, and you?" throws them off really badly. It's actually a lot of fun.

(Oh, and Happy Birthday!)


 
antartica Posted: Thu Apr 21 13:00:46 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  in Dingapore you get different greetings from the different races

in malay : a'macam?
translated: hows it?

chinese
mandarin : ni hao?
hokkien/teochew : ho bo?
translated : (literal) good?

indian :....... i'll get to that someday


 
Kira Posted: Thu Apr 21 13:06:16 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Happy Birthday, Paulo.


 
libra Posted: Thu Apr 21 14:31:12 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  kurohyou said:
>
>Another one that comes to mind as an interesting greeting is Aloha in Hawaii. From what I understand its a greeting, as well as something you say when you leave.

It means hello and goodbye...


 
libra Posted: Thu Apr 21 14:47:41 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Here we say "hey" "hi" and "sup" mostly. People don't greet each other by asking any various of "how are you" and the proper response to "sup" is "not much."




 
beetlebum Posted: Thu Apr 21 15:10:52 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Happy late Birthday.


 
Posted: Thu Apr 21 16:43:46 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  "eh" is the universal greeting.


 
DaggerEyes Posted: Thu Apr 21 16:59:04 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  What I think is even more... interesting is when greetings are used to have completely a different meaning than 'hello'.
FOr example, the guys at my school who say, 'How's it goin?' and mean 'would you ever have sex with me?'
I've noticed that people ask how you are as a greeting more and more, and I always try to answer even if I'm racing past.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 21 18:12:43 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DaggerEyes said:
>What I think is even more... interesting is when greetings are used to have completely a different meaning than 'hello'.
>FOr example, the guys at my school who say, 'How's it goin?' and mean 'would you ever have sex with me?'
>I've noticed that people ask how you are as a greeting more and more, and I always try to answer even if I'm racing past.
>
Just out of curiosity, how many of them would you be having sex with ?


 
FN Posted: Thu Apr 21 18:16:14 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DaggerEyes said:
>I've noticed that people ask how you are as a greeting more and more

People ask me that all the time too, especially those who don't know me that well and just see me casually.

They all expect "good, thx, and you?", period.

I usually answer something like "not any worse than the previous part of my life up to this point", which resulted in quite a few disturbed looks.


There's a distinct difference in how you greet people. My "affection" if you will towards somebody can be derived from the way I greet them. My mother and grandmother get a kiss and a hug, my brother gets a pat on the back and usually I'm actually friendly towards him. If we haven't seen eachother in a while (like more than 2 days) he gets a hug too.

Male friends are greeted with a standard "male friend" handshake (sort of like grabbing eachother's thumb and palm at the same time, don't really know how to explain it). The closer male friends are greeted with an "advanced" version of it (more or less the same thing, except that it's followed by more or less knocking your knuckles together, nothing in an overly dramatic or macho kind of way, hardly noticable, the whole thing takes about a second I think, and happens out of view of most bystanders, the difference is hardly visible, but it's there. Don't really know how it grew on us or where it came from.)

Sometimes when the forementioned close friends haven't been seen for a long time, a week or a month or something, from the standard male friend handshake might come a half-hug-pat-on-the-back sort of thing. Very restricted use though, and very few people who're allowed to.

All female friends are welcomed with a kiss on the cheek, sometimes on the hand. Cheesy perhaps, but most appreciate it, as they know I'm not being a pig and patronising them but that it's a sign of respect. Saying goodbye is the same thing. Some also have hugging rights, but I never initiate that. If they're allowed to, they know that they can if they want, and I leave it up to them. Sometimes with interesting results.

If I meet people I don't know, or "older" people, I always make sure to shake hands (the normal way, not the male friend way) instead of just standing there barely managing to pull off a share hello like I've seen some people do.

Call me old fashioned but I do believe in etiquette, especially when I'm not familiar with the people I'm getting to know. It involves more than the handshake, ofcourse. I'm very thankful that my mother, and my father too to some extent, raised us to be able to handle pretty much any type of crowd, it has done a lot of good for me before.

Especially with older people you sometimes get surprised reactions when a 15 year old kid (my brother) is more eloquent and well-behaved and confident/familiar with stuff like this than their own 20 year old offspring. I take some pride in that too, as I too helped drill that into him, and he too tastes the fruits that it brings along.

Also, it's a very handy skill when you need to be able to play along when you meet a girlfriend's parents and you know which cards to play to come across like the ideal son in law. And in the end, isn't that what it's all about, getting into their daughter's pants?


 
FN Posted: Thu Apr 21 18:19:53 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  As for saying hi, most expressions used would be

"ie" (pronounced "e")

"i-o" ("e-o")

"yow" (but in a very relaxed sort of way, not like anything I've seen in an american movie or something before)


I usually greet people with "wees gegroet" ("be greeted / greetings")


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 21 18:19:58 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>Just out of curiosity, how many of them would you be having sex with ?


LOL!
so subtle

My pet peev with greetings are walking into some chain store where some brilliant CEO got the idea that all employees have to greet anyone that walks thru the door. So if you happen to walk in with 5 other people at the same time you get bombarded with six canned greetings from some underpaid clerk that doesn't even bother to look up and who could give a rat's ass about you in the first place....but they HAVE to say it.


*and I'll do something nice for the first person to guess who's in the lastest Ludwig pic : )


 
kurohyou Posted: Thu Apr 21 20:42:30 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  libra said:
>kurohyou said:
>>
>>Another one that comes to mind as an interesting greeting is Aloha in Hawaii. From what I understand its a greeting, as well as something you say when you leave.
>
>It means hello and goodbye...

I could not think of the word goodbye to save my life when I posted this...argh. Friday must come sooner next week.


 
Mesh Posted: Fri Apr 22 00:24:04 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I say hello and how you are doing?

Lots of people here say, Que honda, or hola.




 
Paulo Posted: Fri Apr 22 04:57:34 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Thank you all for the belated greetings. I spent gift money on Curb Your Enthusiasm series 3, the Looney Tunes Golden Collection, some speakers with a sub woofer (?) and a copy of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy which was hardback and only 2.99 as opposed to the paperback film tie-in which has now been jacked up to 4.99. In addition the TV series is now 19.99, luckily I purchased this several months ago for ten bucks less as i knew they would make related merchanidise tres expensive.

Another thing i find is that in my and Mat_J's office they enjoy answering the phone with an overly long greeting:

Hi your through to (Insert company name here) you'r speaking to (Insert name here) how can I help? Personally I stop listening after Hi, and I'm sure there was a study done that proved people don't pay attention after the first three words. When the time comes for me to answer phones I will simply answer hello and assume the person ringing has the foresight to know who they are phoning.


 
iggy Posted: Fri Apr 22 06:41:50 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  antartica said:
>in Dingapore you get different greetings from the different races
>
>in malay : a'macam?
>translated: hows it?
>
>chinese
>mandarin : ni hao?
>hokkien/teochew : ho bo?
>translated : (literal) good?
>
>indian :....... i'll get to that someday

normal grunts like us : oi!


 
addi Posted: Fri Apr 22 07:13:05 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Paulo said:
>the Looney Tunes Golden Collection

I have that...but there were so many of my favorites they didn't include.


>When the time comes for me to answer phones I will simply answer hello and assume the person ringing has the foresight to know who they are phoning.

You're assuming an awful lot : )


*and listen you asshats...somebody guess which gter is in this Ludwig pic! As christophe would say..."It's irritating me!"


 
Mesh Posted: Fri Apr 22 07:15:55 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Asshats? LOL. But yes, I was actually wondering who the current picture was of. I have no idea about for where to start guessing.


 
FN Posted: Fri Apr 22 07:16:13 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Ahriman.


 
Mesh Posted: Fri Apr 22 07:17:01 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Is that a guess or who it actually is?


 
addi Posted: Fri Apr 22 07:23:22 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Christophe said:
>Ahriman.

yup...way in the back across from Ludwig

(damn it! I hate it when Chris is right)


 
FN Posted: Fri Apr 22 08:52:40 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>I hate it when Chris is right

One would think you'd be used to it after all these years ;o)


 
DaggerEyes Posted: Fri Apr 22 11:14:32 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:
>DaggerEyes said:
>>For example, the guys at my school who say, 'How's it goin?' and mean 'would you ever have sex with me?'

>Just out of curiosity, how many of them would you be having sex with ?

None of them, the phrase 'guys at my school' should actually be substituted for, 'good for nothing morons I am forced to share air with.' I often pretend they're invisible when they talk to me.


 
Mesh Posted: Fri Apr 22 11:23:58 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Damnit that wasnt intended to be an invisible thread down there.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Fri Apr 22 12:48:00 2005 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DaggerEyes said:
>ifihadahif said:
>>DaggerEyes said:
>>>For example, the guys at my school who say, 'How's it goin?' and mean 'would you ever have sex with me?'
>
>>Just out of curiosity, how many of them would you be having sex with ?
>
>None of them, the phrase 'guys at my school' should actually be substituted for, 'good for nothing morons I am forced to share air with.' I often pretend they're invisible when they talk to me.
>
their loss. . .


 



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