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Cynthia McKinney is a comptemptible, low life, race baiter
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Apr 5 13:44:54 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/michellemalkin/2006/04/05/192537.html


 
Mesh Posted: Wed Apr 5 14:51:51 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Yes, because as a white person I've never had police/security guards expect me to obey the rules.


And wtf, she hit the policeman? And didn't get charged? And she's acting all indignant? You know, plenty of other people have gotten a generous serving of pepper spray with a side of knuckle sandwhich for doing less to a police officer.




I didn't read the entire article.


 
addi Posted: Wed Apr 5 15:27:11 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  : )

I knew immediately when I went to GT and saw the thread title who the author was.

I'm not going to defend her at all here. I do find it very interesting that you have been very quiet with your political threads for a while here and then this pops up. With a multitude of republican stupidity newsworthy topics on matters that are really important to chose from over the past several months....hif remains silent

*chirp chirp*

But then a democratic congresswoman does something that is primarily just an embarrassment to her, with no serious national consequences, and you pounce all over it.

"How Dare She!!"

I wonder why you never started any threads about Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff, Bill Frist, Scooter Libby, Bob Taft, etc..etc..
Hmmmm...

I think it's because you have a blind eye about anything a conservative does, but somehow see like an eagle when a democrat trips.

Flail your arms and raise your voice in righteous indignation on things that really matter. This Mckinney stuff is really small potatoes when compared to the shit conservatives are forcing down our throats lately.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Apr 5 15:47:43 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>: )
>
>I knew immediately when I went to GT and saw the thread title who the author was.
>
>I'm not going to defend her at all here. I do find it very interesting that you have been very quiet with your political threads for a while here and then this pops up. With a multitude of republican stupidity newsworthy topics on matters that are really important to chose from over the past several months....hif remains silent
>
>*chirp chirp*
>
>But then a democratic congresswoman does something that is primarily just an embarrassment to her, with no serious national consequences, and you pounce all over it.
>
>"How Dare She!!"
>
>I wonder why you never started any threads about Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff, Bill Frist, Scooter Libby, Bob Taft, etc..etc..
>Hmmmm...
>
>I think it's because you have a blind eye about anything a conservative does, but somehow see like an eagle when a democrat trips.
>
>Flail your arms and raise your voice in righteous indignation on things that really matter. This Mckinney stuff is really small potatoes when compared to the shit conservatives are forcing down our throats lately.
>
So predictable that you would change the topic like you did.
Actually I wasn't turning a blind eye to anything, I was waiting for you to
start it back up.
But I wouldn't exactly call it small potatoes when she plays the race card.
What's this "being in congress while black" bullshit ?
Hitting a Capitol security officer is never small potatoes, especially during a heightened security time such as this was. He would have been within his rights to throw her to the floor and throw the cuffs on her. She's lucky if you ask me.
If I'm not mistaken, we've already had discussions about Libby, Abramoff, and Delay.

Also if you actually take the time to read it all, Ms. Malkin does talk about how this is an embarassing time for republicans and dumbass McKinney pulls this stupid shit and draws attention from the republicans to the dems.
Once again, as usual, they shoot themselves in the foot.
Not exactly turning a blind eye.


 
addi Posted: Wed Apr 5 16:35:22 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>Not exactly turning a blind eye.

Yes, it is.
You go to the trouble of finding and then posting a thread about the stupidity of McKinney.
You fail to start one single thread on the stupidity of the above mentioned asshats.
You turn a blind eye to the misdoings of conservatives..plain and simple. GT forum history is my proof.

"not small potatoes"? It's very small potatoes when you compare it to the federal investigations going on now with the subhumans I mentioned. They lie to us, they cheat us out of our taxpayers money, they break federal laws...yet you chose to bring up a hot tempered black woman that hits a security officer....under the very subtle title "...comptemptible, low life, race baiter"

Did she embarrass herself? Yes (she has a few times)
Did she rip us off using her power as a politician for her own greed and self-serving interests? No

It is small potatoes compared to so many other things. She will go through the ringer, while others doing far worse things walk away scott free.
I won't hold my breath waiting for a thread title from you like this here...

"Delay is a comptemptible, low life, liar and greedy bastard"

because I'd never get to take another breath.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Apr 5 16:47:11 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Um let's see . . .

Delay is indicted with no evidence by a politically motivated prosecutor.

Not a single indictment has been issued in the Karl Rove Plamegate affair.

Libby was indicted in an investigation in which there have been no charges filed.

I won't spend any time defending Abramof, he's guilty as charged.

Ms. McKinney is an embarassment to our nation and becomes a cartoon character when she plays the race card.
She shames her own race in front of the whole country and does it with righteous indignation.
If you or I had done what she did, we would be in jail, but she is out holding press conferences.
What she did by itself might be small potatoes, but when she accuses the Capitol Police of racism, it becomes much much more.


 
addi Posted: Wed Apr 5 17:04:22 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:
>Um let's see . . .
>
>Delay is indicted with no evidence by a politically motivated prosecutor.

You just lost any shred of political credibility with me on that statement alone.

but I still love you...you have good taste in women and music.


 
novemberrain Posted: Wed Apr 5 17:30:14 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  "My response was not to go postal or do a Naomi Campbell on the gropers. My response was to ask why they aren't doing more security profiling."

That line made me laugh so hard.


 
Silentmind Posted: Wed Apr 5 17:55:03 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Regardless of her political affiliation, what she did was wrong and stupid. Had this been a republican, the same fuss would have been raised by someone with a democratic affiliation somewhere. To just skip past the guards without regard for the process is irresponsible. She should be happy that the guards there are doing their job. And a tap isn't assualt.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Apr 5 19:13:32 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>ifihadahif said:
>>Um let's see . . .
>>
>>Delay is indicted with no evidence by a politically motivated prosecutor.
>
>You just lost any shred of political credibility with me on that statement alone.
>
>but I still love you...you have good taste in women and music.
>
Awwwww . . . .


 
addi Posted: Wed Apr 5 19:40:34 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I can't defend what McKinny did. She made a dumb mistake and she needs to be called out for it. She has lost some respect in my eyes.

But this column is crap. It's nothing more than rantings from a poorly informed, right-wing doofus..trying to pass itself off as quality journalism.

First of all, it comes from Townhall.com
That should immediatley tell the reader balance and fairness is out the window.

Secondly the title is "The Party of Police Haters", and adds later, "Contempt for law enforcement is a hallmark of the party of Ted Kennedy, Al Sharpton, Chuck Schumer, Jesse Jackson and the Clintons". So we are now to believe that the entire Democratic party now hates all policemen and law enforcement officials. It's such an assinine statement that it doesn't even merit comment.
We all know what party is now sweating bullets over so many ranking members breaking the law...but Ms. Malkin convienently overlooks that fact. Shocking.

Thirdly she writes, "...But, hey, don't question their {democrats} patriotism."
Hating all police officers isn't enough. Now all the sitting Democrats aren't patriotic because they haven't come out and publically called for McKinny's head. This is a frequently used and tired ploy by the right wing. If you aren't with them then you aren't a patriot. If we raise our voices about the war, then we aren't supporting out troops...yada yada yada...we're all essentially traitors.

Read the column. There's no journalistic integrity to it. It's just poorly written blathering grade school tripe..meant to feed the mindless willing sheep that frequent the site more fuel for hating those eleitist liberals, the real source of the country's ills...while distracting them from the lunatics that are running the asylum.

Perhaps I'm channeling the spirit of Christophe now, but anyone that believes the bullshit this administration has been giving us for years now really isn't the brightest bulb. The Democratic party for sure has it's share of idiots, but it's the Republican Party that's more and more becoming the party of the lobotomized. It's a dim shadow of what it was in the 70's and 80's.



 
DanSRose Posted: Wed Apr 5 19:53:34 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I really wanted to stay out of this, I really did, but of all the things that are important, that really important that have an impact on more than 3 or 4 people, this isn't one of them.

These are some stories that are:
Deputy Press Security of Department of Homeland Security arrested for soliciting an underage girl in a pepophile sting (he emailed her porn and a copy of his DHS badge)
http://www.tampabays10.com/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=28229

More officers are committing suicide, while still in Iraq, than previous wars. Also, VA benefits are being hacked and slashed, in both medical and psychological treatment. (If you and your wife make more than $30,000 per year, you are inelligible for VA health coverage)
http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12072005.html

Tom Delay, 2 high ranking Congressmen, conservative pundits, and religious leaders this week declared that there was a war on Christians in America and something must be done.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/28/AR2006032801632.html

"Seven Months After Katrina: Sleeping in Your Car in Front of Your Trailer in Front of Your Devastated Home" by Bill Quigley
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/printer_033006N.shtml

"Bush shuns Patriot Act requirement: In addendum to law, he says oversight rules are not binding." By Charlie Savage (Boston Globe)
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/03/24/bush_shuns_patriot_act_requirement/



 
addi Posted: Wed Apr 5 20:45:31 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DanSRose said:
>I really wanted to stay out of this, I really did, but of all the things that are important, that really important that have an impact on more than 3 or 4 people, this isn't one of them.

Admit it...you were dieing to get into this!
: )

and I can tell you were being sarcastic. I mean, McKinney hitting a security officer affects the lives of a hell of a lot more Americans than those displaced by Katrina, by those lazy veterans losing benefits, and by King Bush being above the Constitution.
Silly Dan


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Apr 5 21:19:10 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>I can't defend what McKinny did. She made a dumb mistake and she needs to be called out for it. She has lost some respect in my eyes.
>
Some respect ? some respect ?
You actually had any respect at all for her before this incident ?
Talk about losing political credibility !
>But this column is crap. It's nothing more than rantings from a poorly informed, right-wing doofus..trying to pass itself off as quality journalism.
>
Yes she writes from the right. She doesn't try to hide where she comes from like the mainstream media. At least she's honest.
Poorly informed ? You betray your own prejudices by saying something as stupid as Michele Malkin being poorly informed.

>First of all, it comes from Townhall.com
>That should immediatley tell the reader balance and fairness is out the window.
>
Balance, maybe not, it's obviously a website for conservatives and makes no bones about it.
Fairness ? I would weigh the fairness of Townall.com against Air America anytime.

>Secondly the title is "The Party of Police Haters", and adds later, "Contempt for law enforcement is a hallmark of the party of Ted Kennedy, Al Sharpton, Chuck Schumer, Jesse Jackson and the Clintons". So we are now to believe that the entire Democratic party now hates all policemen and law enforcement officials. It's such an assinine statement that it doesn't even merit comment.
>
It's tongue-in-cheek Addie, even you should be able to see that and connect it with the list of names up there, every one of them showed blatant contempt for the law in their careers, some more than once.

>We all know what party is now sweating bullets over so many ranking members breaking the law...but Ms. Malkin convienently overlooks that fact. Shocking.
>
Maybe that's because the column is about Ms. McKinney. Ms. Malkin writes primarily about race relations and immigration issues. Being the daughter of Filipino immigrants, these issues are dear to her. Delay and Libby do not fall under those categories.
>Thirdly she writes, "...But, hey, don't question their {democrats} patriotism."
>Hating all police officers isn't enough. Now all the sitting Democrats aren't patriotic because they haven't come out and publically called for McKinny's head. This is a frequently used and tired ploy by the right wing. If you aren't with them then you aren't a patriot. If we raise our voices about the war, then we aren't supporting out troops...yada yada yada...we're all essentially traitors.
>
One of their own has challenged the ingegrity of the Capitol Police, who's job it is to provide security for arguably the most guarded building in the world, and during wartime.
Don't you think they should come to the defense of the Capitol Police ? The very people that ensure their safety ?

>Read the column. There's no journalistic integrity to it. It's just poorly written blathering grade school tripe..meant to feed the mindless willing sheep that frequent the site more fuel for hating those eleitist liberals, the real source of the country's ills...while distracting them from the lunatics that are running the asylum.
>
Blah blah blah, it's punditry, not poetry and she's one of the most widely read and respected pundits in the world.
Blah Blah Blah


 
DanSRose Posted: Wed Apr 5 21:50:51 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>Admit it...you were dieing to get into this!
>: )

No, I really didn't want to. This is a story, but a page 10 story. It goes on the page after the Katie Couric gonig to CBS, on the politcs page after the entertainment page


>Silly Dan
Silly like a frog!


 
addi Posted: Wed Apr 5 22:17:33 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>Blah blah blah, it's punditry, not poetry and she's one of the most widely read and respected pundits in the world.

Really? Such hyperbole.
No she isn't. I'm sure there's a small smattering of internet readers in various countries, but she doesn't have a following of any significance outside of conservative minded readers in America, and something tells me if you polled republicans here 2/3rds would have no clue who she is.

I just lose respect when columnists, radio hosts, talk show hosts, etc...make broad sweeping statements about a group of people without substanciating their claims with fair facts to back up their words. They lose credibility with me. It's like they are trying to entertain people, to say something to get themselves noticed, to be edgey and contraversial, and so what if the truth gets overshadowed. I like my news facts to be straightforward, bland, and to the point, with solid research backing up what is being said. I can almost imagine her at her keyboard typing away thinking "Hmmm... title, what shall I title this with?.. "McKinney's Security Woes"....no...too boring...I know! "The Party of Police Haters!" Yeah...that'll catch some eyes!"
Sensationalism and catchy spin phrases win out over reasoned and fair responses. And just so you know it goes both ways with me. I detest it when Randi Rhodes on AirAmerica does the same thing to the right wingers.
The truth doesn't need "flair". Just present things as they are please...and leave us to make up our own minds about what to conclude from the evidence presented.
Had Ms. Malkin stuck to the McKinney story I wouldn't have had much to say. I've already said it was a dumb thing to do...made worse by her lack of any apology. But, no, she wasn't content to stick to the story. She had to get in swipes about all democrats as unpatriotic and police haters.
It's difficult enough these days for the average citizen to get to the truth of the matter. We don't need psuedo-political columnists making it harder to get there.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 07:56:35 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>ifihadahif said:
>
>>Blah blah blah, it's punditry, not poetry and she's one of the most widely read and respected pundits in the world.
>
>Really? Such hyperbole.
>No she isn't. I'm sure there's a small smattering of internet readers in various countries, but she doesn't have a following of any significance outside of conservative minded readers in America, and something tells me if you polled republicans here 2/3rds would have no clue who she is.
>
Really ? I had no idea, I was just going on my knowledge that she had written two bestsellers and is currently syndicated in over 200 newspapers along with appearing on several network news shows every week.

>I just lose respect when columnists, radio hosts, talk show hosts, etc...make broad sweeping statements about a group of people without substanciating their claims with fair facts to back up their words. They lose credibility with me. It's like they are trying to entertain people, to say something to get themselves noticed, to be edgey and contraversial, and so what if the truth gets overshadowed. I like my news facts to be straightforward, bland, and to the point, with solid research backing up what is being said.
>
You are confused Addi, this is not news, it's punditry, it's opinion and she makes no bones about it. She never tries to hide that fact. Her facts, when stated as facts, are correct though, and her research is always impeccable.




 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 6 08:22:36 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>Really ? I had no idea, I was just going on my knowledge that she had written two bestsellers and is currently syndicated in over 200 newspapers along with appearing on several network news shows every week.

You know and I know that doesn't mean diddley squat. 95 out of a 100 people in the U.S. would have no clue who she is. 99.9 out of 100 people in other countries have no clue who she is.
We live in a country where millions of voting citizens couldn't even name who there state political representatives are for god's sake. And you think they will know who Ms. Malkin is?!

Anyway you are confusing being well known with being a factually reliable intelligent person. The two don't go hand in hand. Bush is very well known all over the world and he's a bloody moron.


>You are confused Addi, this is not news, it's punditry, it's opinion and she makes no bones about it.

I'm well aware of the difference, hif. You fail to take into account that the average reader doesn't make a distinction between over the top punditry and real news. The line is blurred for them. They read statements like "the party of police haters" and transform it into a factual statement.
I understand you won't agree with that statement, but I believe it's true.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 09:11:02 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>You know and I know that doesn't mean diddley squat. 95 out of a 100 people in the U.S. would have no clue who she is. 99.9 out of 100 people in other countries have no clue who she is.
>We live in a country where millions of voting citizens couldn't even name who there state political representatives are for god's sake. And you think they will know who Ms. Malkin is?!
>
Apparently there are a lot that do know who she is.

>Anyway you are confusing being well known with being a factually reliable intelligent person. The two don't go hand in hand. Bush is very well known all over the world and he's a bloody moron.
>
Your opinion sir, not a fact.
Making broad sweeping statements and issuing them as facts will lose you some credibility.

>>You are confused Addi, this is not news, it's punditry, it's opinion and she makes no bones about it.
>
>I'm well aware of the difference, hif. You fail to take into account that the average reader doesn't make a distinction between over the top punditry and real news. The line is blurred for them. They read statements like "the party of police haters" and transform it into a factual statement.
>I understand you won't agree with that statement, but I believe it's true.
>
Ah, the arrogance of liberals, they all think they are smarter than the average joe, and that they aren't capable of seeing the world as it really is.
So, by your logic, punditry should not exist because most people are too stupid to know the difference between the pundits and the newscasters ?



 
DanSRose Posted: Thu Apr 6 09:16:07 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  You are mostly right about this, hif: Congresswoman McKinney did a bad bad thing and was stupid for playing the race card.

Can you concede the point that the news of those 5 articles that I posted up there are disturbing?


 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 09:53:35 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DanSRose said:
>
>These are some stories that are:
>Deputy Press Security of Department of Homeland Security arrested for soliciting an underage girl in a pepophile sting (he emailed her porn and a copy of his DHS badge)
>http://www.tampabays10.com/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=28229
>
Brian Doyle should go to jail for a long long time.

>More officers are committing suicide, while still in Iraq, than previous wars. Also, VA benefits are being hacked and slashed, in both medical and psychological treatment. (If you and your wife make more than $30,000 per year, you are inelligible for VA health coverage)
>http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12072005.html
>
I didn't see any article about the veterans health coverage, but I will say this. If you and your wife are making 30k, why would you want VA health coverage ? You would most likely have better coverage from your employer.
VA health coverage is a nightmare. I would only use it as a last resort.

>Tom Delay, 2 high ranking Congressmen, conservative pundits, and religious leaders this week declared that there was a war on Christians in America and something must be done.
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/28/AR2006032801632.html
>
Old news.

>"Seven Months After Katrina: Sleeping in Your Car in Front of Your Trailer in Front of Your Devastated Home" by Bill Quigley
>http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/printer_033006N.shtml
>
Yes this is a travesty, but you must take into account the sheer magnitude of this disaster. Anyone who is waiting for the government to take care of them is just courting tragedy. The government will eventually get there, but beaurocracies are not built for speed, and combine that with the worst weather related disaster in our history and what do you expect ?

>"Bush shuns Patriot Act requirement: In addendum to law, he says oversight rules are not binding." By Charlie Savage (Boston Globe)
>http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/03/24/bush_shuns_patriot_act_requirement/
>
Not a problem for me.


 
DanSRose Posted: Thu Apr 6 10:28:59 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I have to go to work, but with #5 he said he is not bound by the law, that it's not applicable to him.
#3- Last week is not old news
#4- It's been 7 and a half months. There is something more that can be done and the government is shrugging. Yay massive dead people and exiles. You know they are better off in Texas anyway.
#2- I read the 30K thing somewhere else, I'll find that. The point is that if you come back from a war and are sick and the wounds and anguish are from the war (you know, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED") and they said that they'll take care of you, it's a tragedy with a blame with a responsibilty. Wartime PTSD and Suicide (which was the point of the article) is something that the government has to deal with. In LA, a few months, a veteran who just came home who wasn't getting any treatment had a breakdown, shot a few people and turned the gun on himself?


 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 10:43:16 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DanSRose said:
>I have to go to work, but with #5 he said he is not bound by the law, that it's not applicable to him.
>
Like I said, not a problem for me.

>#3- Last week is not old news
>
Yes, it's old news, the meeting occurred last week, but it's old news.

>#4- It's been 7 and a half months. There is something more that can be done and the government is shrugging. Yay massive dead people and exiles. You know they are better off in Texas anyway.
>
Like I said, if you are going to just sit an wait for a beaurocracy to come to your aid, you're fucked.
Yeah, it's just the government sitting on its' big fat ass while people are suffering. . . . uh huh.
Do you realize how inefficient large beaurocracies are ? They suck.
I disagree, I don't think much more can be done. We are puking money and manpower at the situation. As long as the effort is managed by a government beaurocracy that is beholden to idiots like Nagin, those people are fucked.
Why do you continue to see all the problems in Louisiana, but not so much in Mississippi ?

>#2- I read the 30K thing somewhere else, I'll find that. The point is that if you come back from a war and are sick and the wounds and anguish are from the war (you know, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED") and they said that they'll take care of you, it's a tragedy with a blame with a responsibilty. Wartime PTSD and Suicide (which was the point of the article) is something that the government has to deal with. In LA, a few months, a veteran who just came home who wasn't getting any treatment had a breakdown, shot a few people and turned the gun on himself?
>
Not exactly true.
If you are discharged with wounds, injuries, or sickness incurred while in the service you are eligible for treatement from the VA.


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 6 13:00:06 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Papers: Cheney Aide Says Bush OK'd Leak
AP -
WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors President Bush authorized the leak of sensitive intelligence information about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA leak case. Before his indictment, I. Lewis Libby testified to the grand jury investigating the Valerie Plame leak that Cheney told him to pass on the information and that it was Bush who authorized the leak, the court papers say.


But shit like this is minor compared to McKinney's outbursts, eh?

Bush makes Nixon seem like a choir boy.



 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 13:17:16 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>Papers: Cheney Aide Says Bush OK'd Leak
>AP -
>WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors President Bush authorized the leak of sensitive intelligence information about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA leak case. Before his indictment, I. Lewis Libby testified to the grand jury investigating the Valerie Plame leak that Cheney told him to pass on the information and that it was Bush who authorized the leak, the court papers say.
>
>
>But shit like this is minor compared to McKinney's outbursts, eh?
>
>Bush makes Nixon seem like a choir boy.
>
You might want to at least wait until all the info comes out before passing judgement. Not too long ago you had Karl Rove convicted of this.

And yes I do believe this is minor compared to Ms. McKinney because this is nothing more than politics as usual, regardless of party affiliation, politics is dirty.
Race relations are as important as any issue we have right now, and she is only making things worse.
Had she not played the race card, it would have been nothing more than a regretable, forgetable incident.
Now it is much more.


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 6 13:27:19 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>You might want to at least wait until all the info comes out before passing judgement. Not too long ago you had Karl Rove convicted of this.

Rant ahead. The sensitive should close their eyes when reading the following:

Rove IS guilty as sin, hif. Libby, Cheney, and Bush all are. You just don't get it do you. They're connected at the hip. Whether or not any of them end up in jail is beside the point. They all were fucking part of it.

But don't raise bloody hell about outing a CIA agent, and leaking sensitive information during wartime...keep hammering about the grave threat McKinny is to our national security.

What a joke



 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 13:35:42 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>ifihadahif said:
>
>>You might want to at least wait until all the info comes out before passing judgement. Not too long ago you had Karl Rove convicted of this.
>
>Rant ahead. The sensitive should close their eyes when reading the following:
>
>Rove IS guilty as sin, hif. Libby, Cheney, and Bush all are. You just don't get it do you. They're connected at the hip. Whether or not any of them end up in jail is beside the point. They all were fucking part of it.
>
So now you convict without evidence ?
Based on association ?

>But don't raise bloody hell about outing a CIA agent, and leaking sensitive information during wartime...keep hammering about the grave threat McKinny is to our national security.
>
It still has yet to be determined whether or not her status was covert.
Since not a single charge has been issued, I'll take that as a not covert.

If you don't believe race baiting is a serious problem then you are more hopeless than previously thought.


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 6 13:48:17 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>So now you convict without evidence ?
>Based on association ?


Straight from the lips of Cheney's top aide: Bush knew.
But that isn't any kind of evidence is it.

you could have a signed confession by each of them in front of you, hif, and then next thing out of your lips would be
"So show me the evidence."



 
ifihadahif Posted: Thu Apr 6 14:13:53 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>ifihadahif said:
>
>>So now you convict without evidence ?
>>Based on association ?
>
>
>Straight from the lips of Cheney's top aide: Bush knew.
>But that isn't any kind of evidence is it.
>
Let's wait and see what Bush and Cheney have to say. Surely if Libby's words are evidence, then words of Bush and Cheney must be considered as evidence as well.

>you could have a signed confession by each of them in front of you, hif, and then next thing out of your lips would be
>"So show me the evidence."
>
Apparently you don't need evidence to convict Addi.
Show me the charges being brought.


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 6 18:24:14 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>Apparently you don't need evidence to convict Addi.

Apparently you don't recognise evidence when it's out there Hif


Peace, my friend. Now go out, be fruity, and multiply

: )


 
DanSRose Posted: Thu Apr 6 19:50:12 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  See, this is why I didn't want to get involved with this.

I still can't get animated gif's to work on Firefox 1.5.0


 
addi Posted: Thu Apr 6 21:01:48 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  DanSRose said:
>See, this is why I didn't want to get involved with this.


We're cool, Dan. This is about the gajillanth time Hif and I have gotten into a war of words here.
We keep our feelings here, and remain friends outside of our political differences.

At least I hope we do : )


 
ifihadahif Posted: Fri Apr 7 06:37:03 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>DanSRose said:
>>See, this is why I didn't want to get involved with this.
>
>
>We're cool, Dan. This is about the gajillanth time Hif and I have gotten into a war of words here.
>We keep our feelings here, and remain friends outside of our political differences.
>
>At least I hope we do : )
>
Is that what you think ?
:-)


 
addi Posted: Fri Apr 7 07:30:07 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>Is that what you think ?
>:-)

No...that's what I hope

cuz if I found out you hated me I don't know if I could go on living...at the very least it would affect my sex life
: )


 
Mesh Posted: Fri Apr 7 07:42:40 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>
>cuz if I found out you hated me I don't know if I could go on living...at the very least it would affect my sex life
>: )


!!!!

Hif you better reassure this man pronto!!!!


 
ifihadahif Posted: Fri Apr 7 10:04:32 2006 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Mr. Misses said:
>addi said:
>>
>>cuz if I found out you hated me I don't know if I could go on living...at the very least it would affect my sex life
>>: )
>
>
>!!!!
>
>Hif you better reassure this man pronto!!!!
>
HA !
At his age, sex is nothing more than a memory . . . .
*
*
. . . . . or is that mammary ?


 



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