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just launched: ThePersuasion.com
Posted: Tue Feb 13 00:17:39 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  introducing The Persuasion: How to Win Arguments and Influence People.

It's my newest blogging adventure, quite awhile in the works, and I think it might just do pretty well, so I hope you guys will give it a warm welcome and a bookmark. Cheers!


 
Posted: Tue Feb 13 00:18:07 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  errrr

shoulda probably mentionned: http://thepersuasion.com is where it's at. yeah.


 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 06:14:25 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Nice, Crim. I hope its a smashing success for you.

"the point of ThePersuasion is this: it’s not about being right, it’s about persuading."

I prefer to be persuasive and right : )


 
poko Posted: Tue Feb 13 11:23:45 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Unless the LORD builds the house,
its builders labor in vain.
Unless the LORD watches over the city,
the watchmen stand guard in vain.
2 In vain you rise early
and stay up late,
toiling for food to eat—
for he grants sleep to [a] those he loves.




 
poko Posted: Tue Feb 13 11:29:13 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  you can persuade men, but can you persuade God? are your works hidden before him? Will you be right before him by subterfuge? Only the Word will be victorious.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Tue Feb 13 11:43:52 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Poko, could we persuade you to join the conversation, maybe even add something insightful ?
So far, you've only shown us that you appear to be a religious zealot with no thougthts of your own.


 
poko Posted: Tue Feb 13 11:59:57 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  it may be. or maybe i understand what i´m saying. Do you understand it?


 
libra Posted: Tue Feb 13 12:37:10 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Congrats Phil, looks good!


 
J. Posted: Tue Feb 13 12:56:20 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
 
Here's one for you, Criminal Saint:


HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT
by Dave Barry


I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:


* Drink Liquor * .

Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.



* Make things up. *

Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."

NOTE: Always make up exact figures.

If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left your soiled underwear in my bath house."



* Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.*

Memorize this list:

Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak

You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.," "e.g.," and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do not."

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say: "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.



* Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks. *

You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples and oranges.
What are your parameters?
This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

You say: As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...
Your opponent says: Lincoln died in 1865.
You say : You're begging the question.

OR

You say: Liberians, like most Asians...
Your opponent says: Liberia is in Africa.
You say : You're being defensive.


* Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.*

This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say: "That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or "You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."


So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.





 
~Just Imagine~ Posted: Tue Feb 13 13:29:50 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I'm getting back on my hottie thoughts

Religion is not a hottie facor my friend :)


Oh, and good job crim :)


 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 13:38:46 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>it may be. or maybe i understand what i´m saying. Do you understand it?

I don't...and I'm fucking brilliant too....just ask god...she'll tell you.

: )


 
Cherry_Moon Posted: Tue Feb 13 14:08:34 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:
>Poko, could we persuade you to join the conversation, maybe even add something insightful ?
>So far, you've only shown us that you appear to be a religious zealot with no thougthts of your own.

i have to agree with you there. perhaps you persuaded me too... :P


 
poko Posted: Tue Feb 13 14:50:43 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  why do you give your opinion about something you did not understand. If you do not agree with me, give an argument that refutes what was said.


 
Posted: Tue Feb 13 15:09:59 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  suenos said:
>
>Here's one for you, Criminal Saint:
>
>
>HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT
>by Dave Barry

hah - I've always loved this article, thanks for posting it!


 
Posted: Tue Feb 13 15:11:58 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>just ask god...she'll tell you.


zinggggg!


 
Posted: Tue Feb 13 15:15:03 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>Only the Word will be victorious.

http://images.thatimagesite.com/core/163/163_image.jpg ?


 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 15:53:50 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>why do you give your opinion about something you did not understand. If you do not agree with me, give an argument that refutes what was said.

poko...baby! talk to me! :)

I like a good debate. But for me I have to understand exactly what a person is saying and the point they're trying to make before I can agree or disagree with them.
To be blunt you're posts are just a bit incomprehensible and murky to fully understand. I get bits and pieces of them, but it just kind of hits me as jibberish....with lots of exclamation points.
so explain what you're trying to get across clearly and I'm sure you'll get some good discussion on the matter.



 
poko Posted: Tue Feb 13 16:12:40 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  If you knew God you would have asked him, and he would have given you his light for you to understand what was being said.


 
~Just Imagine~ Posted: Tue Feb 13 16:20:32 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Dude, therapy, I recommend it

That is all


 
ifihadahif Posted: Tue Feb 13 16:40:38 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>If you knew God you would have asked him, and he would have given you his light for you to understand what was being said.
>
Dude, you gotta fight it, the voices in your head aren't really there ya know.


 
choke Posted: Tue Feb 13 16:53:52 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Wow, we really do tend to jump on people around here.


 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 17:22:55 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>If you knew God you would have asked him, and he would have given you his light for you to understand what was being said.

that much I understood. thank you

and I did ask god for his light. He told me (in the form of a talking beaver) that he'd be happy to, but he had no idea what you were saying himself.

go figure.


 
poko Posted: Tue Feb 13 17:29:24 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  If God told you, then you should believe him.


 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 18:08:06 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>If God told you, then you should believe him.

I do....I do!

we need to find you a sense of humor, poko. perhaps, if you asked real nicely, god would send a spare one down to you. you seem to have a good relationship with him.
when I look at everything he created I think he must have a wicked sense of humor.

: )


 
FN Posted: Tue Feb 13 19:09:37 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>If God told you, then you should believe him.

*luring voice* Heeeeeere pokopokopokopoko, heeere boy

If you put on this jacket you'll get some multicoloured candy!



Something tells me you need to get out of that closet and get some manmeat up the pooper, friend.


 
FN Posted: Tue Feb 13 19:13:10 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Speaking of yokels (although poko seems to have mastered the copy/paste function on his calcumatron), check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6MJVzXbqRU&eurl=


 
J. Posted: Tue Feb 13 19:13:39 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  You're welcome, Criminal Saint.

I had this article for a long time and always liked it. But really, on any internet forum, the best (and surest) way to win any argument is to out-talk your opponent(s). Write mile-long posts and keep on talking (to yourself) until the enemy flees to the new thread! (Mr. Christophe is the master of this art.)*LOL*

_____________


Thirty - Eight Ways to Win an Argument

from Schopenhauer's "The Art of Controversy"


1. Carry your opponent's proposition beyond its natural limits; exaggerate it.

The more general your opponent's statement becomes, the more objections you can find against it.


The more restricted and narrow your own propositions remain, the easier they are to defend.


2. Use different meanings of your opponent's words to refute his argument.

Example: Person A says, "You do not understand the mysteries of Kant's philosophy."

Person B replies, "Of, if it's mysteries you're talking about, I'll have nothing to do with them."


3. Ignore your opponent's proposition, which was intended to refer to some particular thing.

Rather, understand it in some quite different sense, and then refute it.
Attack something different than what was asserted.


4. Hide your conclusion from your opponent until the end.

Mingle your premises here and there in your talk.

Get your opponent to agree to them in no definite order.

By this circuitous route you conceal your goal until you have reached all the admissions necessary to reach your goal.


5. Use your opponent's beliefs against him.

If your opponent refuses to accept your premises, use his own premises to your advantage.

Example, if the opponent is a member of an organization or a religious sect to which you do not belong, you may employ the declared opinions of this group against the opponent.


6. Confuse the issue by changing your opponent's words or what he or she seeks to prove.

Example: Call something by a different name: "good repute" instead of "honor," "virtue" instead of "virginity," "red-blooded" instead of "vertebrates".


7. State your proposition and show the truth of it by asking the opponent many questions.

By asking many wide-reaching questions at once, you may hide what you want to get admitted.

Then you quickly propound the argument resulting from the proponent's admissions.


8. Make your opponent angry.

An angry person is less capable of using judgment or perceiving where his or her advantage lies.


9. Use your opponent's answers to your question to reach different or even opposite conclusions.


10. If you opponent answers all your questions negatively and refuses to grant you any points, ask him or her to concede the opposite of your premises.


This may confuse the opponent as to which point you actually seek him to concede.


11. If the opponent grants you the truth of some of your premises, refrain from asking him or her to agree to your conclusion.


Later, introduce your conclusions as a settled and admitted fact.

Your opponent and others in attendance may come to believe that your conclusion was admitted.


12. If the argument turns upon general ideas with no particular names, you must use language or a metaphor that is favorable to your proposition.

Example: What an impartial person would call "public worship" or a "system of religion" is described by an adherent as "piety" or "godliness" and by an opponent as "bigotry" or "superstition."

In other words, inset what you intend to prove into the definition of the idea.


13. To make your opponent accept a proposition , you must give him an opposite, counter-proposition as well.


If the contrast is glaring, the opponent will accept your proposition to avoid being paradoxical.

Example: If you want him to admit that a boy must to everything that his father tells him to do, ask him, "whether in all things we must obey or disobey our parents."
Or , if a thing is said to occur "often" you are to understand few or many times, the opponent will say "many."

It is as though you were to put gray next to black and call it white; or gray next to white and call it black.


14. Try to bluff your opponent.

If he or she has answered several of your question without the answers turning out in favor of your conclusion, advance your conclusion triumphantly, even if it does not follow.

If your opponent is shy or stupid, and you yourself possess a great deal of impudence and a good voice, the technique may succeed.


15. If you wish to advance a proposition that is difficult to prove, put it aside for the moment.


Instead, submit for your opponent's acceptance or rejection some true proposition, as though you wished to draw your proof from it.

Should the opponent reject it because he suspects a trick, you can obtain your triumph by showing how absurd the opponent is to reject an obviously true proposition.

Should the opponent accept it, you now have reason on your side for the moment.

You can either try to prove your original proposition, as in #14, maintain that your original proposition is proved by what your opponent accepted.

For this an extreme degree of impudence is required, but experience shows cases of it succeeding.


16. When your opponent puts forth a proposition, find it inconsistent with his or her other statements, beliefs, actions or lack of action.


Example: Should your opponent defend suicide, you may at once exclaim, "Why don't you hang yourself?"

Should the opponent maintain that his city is an unpleasant place to live, you may say, "Why don't you leave on the first plane?"


17. If your opponent presses you with a counter-proof, you will often be able to save yourself by advancing some subtle distinction.


Try to find a second meaning or an ambiguous sense for your opponent's idea.


18. If your opponent has taken up a line of argument that will end in your defeat, you must not allow him to carry it to its conclusion.


Interrupt the dispute, break it off altogether, or lead the opponent to a different subject.


19. Should your opponent expressly challenge you to produce any objection to some definite point in his argument, and you have nothing to say, try to make the argument less specific.

Example: If you are asked why a particular hypothesis cannot be accepted, you may speak of the fallibility of human knowledge, and give various illustrations of it.


20. If your opponent has admitted to all or most of your premises, do not ask him or her directly to accept your conclusion.


Rather, draw the conclusion yourself as if it too had been admitted.


21. When your opponent uses an argument that is superficial and you see the falsehood, you can refute it by setting forth its superficial character.

But it is better to meet the opponent with acounter-argument that is just as superficial, and so dispose of him.
For it is with victory that you are concerned, not with truth.

Example: If the opponent appeals to prejudice, emotion or attacks you personally, return the attack in the same manner.


22. If your opponent asks you to admit something from which the point in dispute will immediately follow, you must refuse to do so, declaring that it begs the question.


23. Contradiction and contention irritate a person into exaggerating their statements.

By contradicting your opponent you may drive him into extending the statement beyond its natural limit.

When you then contradict the exaggerated form of it, you look as though you had refuted the original statement.

Contrarily, if your opponent tries to extend your own statement further than your intended, redefine your statement's limits and say, "That is what I said, no more."


24. State a false syllogism.(*)

Your opponent makes a proposition, and by false inference and distortion of his ideas you force from the proposition other propositions that are not intended and that appear absurd.

It then appears that opponent's proposition gave rise to these inconsistencies, and so appears to be indirectly refuted.


25. If your opponent is making a generalization, find an instance to the contrary.

Only one valid contradiction is needed to overthrow the opponent's proposition.

Example: "All ruminants are horned," is a generalization that may be upset by the single instance of the camel.


26. A brilliant move is to turn the tables and use your opponent's arguments against himself.

Example: Your opponent declares: "so and so is a child, you must make an allowance for him."

You retort, "Just because he is a child, I must correct him; otherwise he will persist in his bad habits."


27. Should your opponent suprise you by becoming particularly angry at an argument, you must urge it with all the more zeal.

No only will this make your opponent angry, but it will appear that you have put your finger on the weak side of his case, and your opponent is more open to attack on this point than you expected.


28. When the audience consists of individuals (or a person) who is not an expert on a subject, you make an invalid objection to your opponent who seems to be defeated in the eyes of the audience.

This strategy is particularly effective if your objection makes your opponent look ridiculous or if the audience laughs.

If your opponent must make a long, winded and complicated explanation to correct you, the audience will not be disposed to listen to him.


29. If you find that you are being beaten, you can create a diversion--that is, you can suddenly begin to talk of something else, as though it had a bearing on the matter in dispute.

This may be done without presumption if the diversion has some general bearing on the matter.


30. Make an appeal to authority rather than reason.

If your opponent respects an authority or an expert, quote that authority to further your case.

If needed, quote what the authority said in some other sense or circumstance.

Authorities that your opponent fails to understand are those which he generally admires the most.

You may also, should it be necessary, not only twist your authorities, but actually falsify them, or quote something that you have entirely invented yourself.


31. If you know that you have no reply to the arguments that your opponent advances, you by a find stroke of irony declare yourself to be an incompetent judge.

Example: "What you say passes my poor powers of comprehension; it may well be all very true, but I can't understand it, and I refrain from any expression of opinion on it."
In this way you insinuate to the audience, with whom you are in good repute, that what your opponent says is nonsense.

This technique may be used only when you are quite sure that the audience thinks much better of you than your opponent.


32. A quick way of getting rid of an opponent's assertion, or of throwing suspicion on it, is by putting it into some odious category.

Example: You can say, "That is fascism" or "Atheism" or "Superstition."

In making an objection of this kind you take for granted

1)That the assertion or question is identical with, or at least contained in, the category cited;

and

2)The system referred to has been entirely refuted by the current audience.


33. You admit your opponent's premises but deny the conclusion.

Example: "That's all very well in theory, but it won't work in practice."


34. When you state a question or an argument, and your opponent gives you no direct answer, or evades it with a counter question, or tries to change the subject, it is sure sign you have touched a weak spot, sometimes without intending to do so.

You have, as it were, reduced your opponent to silence.

You must, therefore, urge the point all the more, and not let your opponent evade it, even when you do not know where the weakness that you have hit upon really lies.


35. Instead of working on an opponent's intellect or the rigor of his arguments, work on his motive.

If you success in making your opponent's opinion, should it prove true, seem distinctly prejudicial to his own interest, he will drop it immediately.

Example: A clergyman is defending some philosophical dogma.

You show him that his proposition contradicts a fundamental doctrine of his church.

He will abandon the argument.


36. You may also puzzle and bewilder your opponent by mere bombast.

If your opponent is weak or does not wish to appear as if he has no idea what your are talking about, you can easily impose upon him some argument that sounds very deep or learned, or that sounds indisputable.


37. Should your opponent be in the right but, luckily for you, choose a faulty proof, you can easily refute it and then claim that you have refuted the whole position.


This is the way in which bad advocates lose good cases.

If no accurate proof occurs to your opponent, you have won the day.


38. Become personal, insulting and rude as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand.

In becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack on the person by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character.


This is a very popular technique, because it takes so little skill to put it into effect.





(*) Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source

syl·lo·gism: Pronunciation[sil-uh-jiz-uhm] –noun 1. Logic. an argument the conclusion of which is supported by two premises, of which one (major premise) contains the term (major term) that is the predicate of the conclusion, and the other (minor premise) contains the term (minor term) that is the subject of the conclusion; common to both premises is a term (middle term) that is excluded from the conclusion. A typical form is “All A is C; all B is A; therefore all B is C.”

2. deductive reasoning.

3. an extremely subtle, sophisticated, or deceptive argument.


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[Origin: 1350–1400; < L syllogismus < Gk syllogismós, equiv. to syllog- (see syllogize) + -ismos -ism; r. ME silogime < OF < L, as above]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.







 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 19:37:57 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  my god that was a long post.

so why did I find it titilating?



*7,000 plus posts and I finally get to use that word
woohoo!


 
Posted: Tue Feb 13 19:59:32 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  suenos said:
>You're welcome, Criminal Saint.

>Thirty - Eight Ways to Win an Argument
>
>from Schopenhauer's "The Art of Controversy"

That was going to be my big opening post, actually. A dissection of the 38.

I changed my mind around launch time, though. Going to go blog shortly.


 
Posted: Tue Feb 13 20:01:09 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  my guesses on Poko:

20% chance he's someone else on the board here

10% chance he's authentically someone new to the board and means what he says

20% chance he's new to the board and just saying these things to get a rise out of us

50% chance he's a spam bot.
^---not kidding.


 
addi Posted: Tue Feb 13 20:28:39 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  CriminalSaint said:

>50% chance he's a spam bot.
>^---not kidding.

what's a spam bot? sounds like something from an Austin Powers movie


 
innocenceNonus Posted: Tue Feb 13 20:54:00 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>why do you give your opinion about something you did not understand. If you do not agree with me, give an argument that refutes what was said.

poko... i understood you. but Bible-pushing isn't going to reach anyone.

it's one thing to understand. it's another thing to agree.


 
innocenceNonus Posted: Tue Feb 13 20:54:55 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>when I look at everything he created I think he must have a wicked sense of humor.
>
>: )

i definitely agree. : ) maybe not wicked in the sense of mean... but definitely awesome.


 
innocenceNonus Posted: Tue Feb 13 21:01:18 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  CriminalSaint said:

>50% chance he's a spam bot.
>^---not kidding.

good point... but can they do that??

and since when did poko start posting??

i'm always last to know. -.-


 
Kira Posted: Tue Feb 13 21:39:52 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I feel so bad 'cause I never visit any GTer websites. I am such a lazy, neglectful friend-thing.

BUT, Crim, your NEW site looks awesome.


 
Kira Posted: Tue Feb 13 21:53:02 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Poko,

Take Addi's advice, loosen up and try talking to us on our level. We don't respond well to holy speeches.

We had a kid like you here once before, name of trogdor, who tried to save us all. Nice kid, liked to draw. Didn't like burritos though!

*snort*


 
beetlebum Posted: Wed Feb 14 02:25:44 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Kira said:
>Poko,
>
>Take Addi's advice, loosen up and try talking to us on our level. We don't respond well to holy speeches.
>
>We had a kid like you here once before, name of trogdor, who tried to save us all. Nice kid, liked to draw. Didn't like burritos though!
>

i surpassed the snort and went for all out laughter.


 
poko Posted: Wed Feb 14 04:50:13 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  what is not morally right, is not defendable, and therefore it needs to be hidden from knowledge. A lie will not live unto eternity. False religion will fall like a ripe fruit. Man is like the grass on the field, the grass dies, but the Word of the Lord lives for ever.


 
innocenceNonus Posted: Wed Feb 14 05:43:56 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>what is not morally right, is not defendable, and therefore it needs to be hidden from knowledge.

it may not be defendable, but it is understandable. because we've all done something morally wrong at one point.

and to hide the bad from knowledge means to ignore it and never learn how to stop it or avoid it or change it.

christians [i'm assuming you are] have avoided taking responsibility and have turned a blind eye for too long.

we've turned a blind eye to our responsibility as the light of the world and we've avoided taking responsibility for our inaction and silence about many of the world problems.

>A lie will not live unto eternity. False religion will fall like a ripe fruit. Man is like the grass on the field, the grass dies, but the Word of the Lord lives for ever.

the word of the Lord may live forever, but anything not done out of love is useless.


 
poko Posted: Wed Feb 14 06:01:01 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  the Word of the Lord is Love, Love is a Law, Law is Order.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Feb 14 06:32:38 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  There ain't no devil, that's just God when he's drunk.
- Tom Waits


 
addi Posted: Wed Feb 14 07:30:08 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  poko said:
>the Word of the Lord is Love, Love is a Law, Law is Order.


I'm beginning to think Crim may be on to something with this "spam bot" thing.
poko's responses seem programed..like he has no mind of his own. Then again, I get that feeling any time I talk with a religious fanatic.


 
poko Posted: Wed Feb 14 07:55:31 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  each on choosed his own twisted way, they thought it would lead to success, but their ways lead to end, because there is no Word in them. The Word is the right Way, the Way of success.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Feb 14 08:08:41 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>poko said:
>>the Word of the Lord is Love, Love is a Law, Law is Order.
>
>
>I'm beginning to think Crim may be on to something with this "spam bot" thing.
>poko's responses seem programed..like he has no mind of his own. Then again, I get that feeling any time I talk with a religious fanatic.
>
I agree with you Addi, but don't get used to it.
:-)


 
addi Posted: Wed Feb 14 08:58:47 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:

>I agree with you Addi, but don't get used to it.


lol

don't worry...I won't.
Every time you and I agree on something I get this bizarre physical reaction where my testicles start twitching uncontrollably in a syncopated rhythm. So I have to concentrate on Bush and politics and in a few minutes the boys are fine again.


 
ifihadahif Posted: Wed Feb 14 09:43:39 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something very strange about the fact that I could have that much power over the behavior of your testicles.
:-)


 
addi Posted: Wed Feb 14 09:48:38 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  ifihadahif said:
>I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something very strange about the fact that I could have that much power over the behavior of your testicles.

it's another one of life's great mysteries

and I wish you'd stop with the finger thing on my private parts

:)


 
innocenceNonus Posted: Wed Feb 14 18:30:56 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  when you two talk to each other so romantically, i get heart palpitations from being emotionally touched.


 
addi Posted: Wed Feb 14 19:04:11 2007 Post | Quote in Reply  
  eh...I'm just a sex toy to hif


I'm not a thing. I'm a person, damnit! I have feelings.


 



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